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jail. this is bad news for his trial. that's all "outfront" tonight. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, stocks tank. the dow plunged 274 points today. it's the biggest drop since november. it was a really bad day and the reason was a terrible jobs report. usually using adjectives like this are sometimes a bit much for the markets but it's the way it was today. american employers added a meager 69,000 jobs which is about half the number needed just to cokeep up with current population growth. it was the weakest month of hiring for the year and the unemployment rate went up to 8.2%. it was a grim day for the president. >> today we're still fighting our way back from the worst economic crisis since the great depression. the economy's growing again, but it's not growing as fast as we
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want it to grow. >> now, according to bianco research, no president has been re-elected in this country with an unemployment rate this high since the great depression. that was when fdr won and at that time unemployment was 13.7%. what's happening? we went to find out. we asked our strike team. 24 of america's business leaders including entrepreneurs and ceos, cisco and others. 11 out of 18 said the job market is stalling. and they are less optimistic than they were just one month ago. ellen calman said i'm an optimist and i was hoping to see some stronger growth by now. this is clearly going to be a slower recovery. so i'm a little more negative on near term growth. this week to that point of the 20 economic indicators that came out, only one surprised to the upside. a stunning statistic from research. the vast majority of our strike team is hiring themselves, when
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i read through the replies it didn't seem to me the kind of hiring that drives a strong economy. bill miller of legg mason said he's only hiring replacements, and even mark andreeson, board member of facebook said while his companies are hiring across the board only in certain areas like engineering and analytics. so what can we do? this is the biggest fear as far as i'm concerned, because at this point there is no easy way out. not only is another stimulus package a complete non-starter in congress it might not even work. strike team point of view on this, overwhelming. stimulus is not the answer according to them. 14 say, no. one major dissent of note from one major dissent of no from david stern of the nba, remaining an ardent supporter of stimulus telling me, yes, stimulus, referring to the liberal economists wish for $300 billion a year in spending. this is much bigger than politics. this ongoing crisis is hurting our 401(k)s, defining our jobs,
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our career prospects and earnings potential, retirement or lack thereof and nation's debt crisis. jim bee -- bianco and dan gross join me now. great to have you with us and appreciate it. start with you, dan. we've been hoping things would start to improve, increase a little bit to the up side. we're not seeing it yet. blip or part of something more sinister? >> having an unemployment crisis going on three, four years now. remember in '09 losing several hundred thousand jobs a month. a jobless recovery. the companies are doing better at doing more with less. they are amazingly efficient and in general waiting for that demand to materialize. it's a chicken and egg thing. car sales up 17% year over year. retail sales up 6% year over year. moving in the right direction, but doesn't seem to be at the speed that says i've got to go hire somebody today. >> jim bianco, the other problem, it's not a speed which has gotten us to where we were before the problem began. so many industries are not back
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to where we were in 2007. >> correct. dan reports car sales up 17% retail up 6%. the overall levels are below what we saw in 2007 and 2008. now, the good news is the economy's not in recession. it's growing slowly, but the bad news is that it is growing slowly. this is the 40th month in a row we've had above 8% unemployment and we have to go back to the great depression to find we've had unemployment above 8% that long and that's casting a pall over everything. it's high a long time and feels different from the '80s in some respects a little worse than then. >> what do we do? most awful part where we are. can say, should have done a differ stimulus, bigger stimulus. the reality is we're not getting another one before the election. >> and we're not getting a lot of help from the fed. the strange thing of the bureau
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of labor statistics says how many job openings are and how many people have moved around, it's called the jolt survey. 3.6 million jobs reopened. and 4 point something million, also higher than it's been in four years. so it's -- a dichotomy. they seem to be saying we have all the job openings but we're not filling them. is that because people don't lack the skills, because people are in the wrong geographic place? >> maybe the problem is that people from detroit can't sell their homes and move to north dakota, it comes back to housing. but what can we do at this point, jim? i mean, i guess i'm curious, i know you're not -- you're very worried about the fiscal cliff that we're coming at, but what is a bigger cliff, the fiscal cliff or the economic cliff? >> well, i think it's the economic cliff, but you're right. labor mobility is very tough.
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it's hard to move around because of the stagnation in the home prices. to that end i think what we have to do is try and make it cheaper for employers to hire people. lower the costs. and whether that means tax cuts or incentives or something to lower -- make it easier or cheaper to hire people across the board, that would be the only thing we could do in the short term in the long term, we're going to have to wait for the storm clouds in europe to subside and we have to wait and see if some of the storm clouds in the housing market, some of the other things that are holding us back here subside. >> how much worse it be if europe falls apart, if greece goes? >> we're not exporting a lot to greece right now. if you were counting on italy for growth in the end market you have been disappointed for a decade now. the real problem this comes back to the financial system. it affects our banks and we see the effects on the knocks.
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and it's almost as if companies have to be bribed to hire somebody. they say, frequently, people don't have the skills. they should be doing the training so maybe the government can help with training of employees. companies seem to be reluctant to do the training which they seemed to do a lot of. >> jeb bush said we have so many job training programs out there, are they working. final word to you, what does this mean to the election? >> i think that it hurts obama over the short term, it helps romney. it puts the election into the toss-up category. we have to see what the next set of data brings for us, so it's not settled at all. there's no clear front-runner right now. >> thanks to both. appreciate it. and mitt romney he just released the financial statement, the night after bill clinton praised him. did clinton throw his guy, president obama, under the bus? or does he have a secret strategy? days after a zombie-like attack, there's a new case where the police say the attacker ate the brain of a victim.
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it's bizarre and happening in other parts of the country. and new developments in the trayvon martin case this afternoon. [ male announcer ] this... is the at&t network. a living, breathing intelligence teaching data how to do more for business. [ beeping ] in here, data knows what to do. because the network finds it and tailors it across all the right points, automating all the right actions, to bring all the right results. [ whirring and beeping ] it's the at&t network -- doing more with data to help business do more for customers. ♪
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all right. our second story outfront, politics. breaking news on that.
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we have some financial disclosures from mitt romney today. i'm here with john avlon. look, i keep this on my desk. this is a blind trust, everything, mitt romney, we've got it. in that was, john, from last summerall the stocks mitt romney owns in his blind trust. the new ones came out today and compared them. what did you find in them? >> this is an update since last august. just glancing at it very quickly, he's a very wealthy man. he has over 50 asset holdings valued at over $1 million, at least. this is an extraordinarily successful guy. there's some speaking fees, he's got more money as a former director and it's largely status quo. he's trying to keep his activity at a minimum because he's running for office. >> when you look through the original ones he did own individual stocks in ford, it appears that some of them are gone. much more money markets.
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very conservative -- >> that's right. to get a sense of the range, very, very diversified. to give you the range, he got up to $6.2 million from bain in the last calendar year. that's the kind of ranges. follow the money. this is a document that establishes ranges and not specific valuations. >> he no longer works at bain so i believe that's the stream coming from old bain funds. that money of course still all taxed at the 15%. >> absolutely. >> long-term capital gains rate. all right. we'll keep looking through these. this is why they get yellowed, why do you kill trees? i don't want to kill trees every time it comes out. it's right on my desk. okay, the schism in the democratic party appears to be, well, maybe getting wider. former president bill clinton the latest to take on the issue of the tax of bain capital, calling mitt romney's record there, quote/unquote sterling and today, mitt romney weighed in. >> 80% of the businesses bain capital invested in grew during
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the period of bain capital's ownership. that's a pretty good record. 5% went bankrupt. i understand that the president and his team will focus all their energy on the 5%. i'd like to focus my energy on the 80%. i think bain capital has a good, solid record. i was happy to see president clinton made a similar statement today. >> all right, john avlon here. hogan gidley also here. john, let me ask you this question. you had cory booker first defending, i'm not going to personally indict private equity. you had deval patrick talk about it and now you have bill clinton. the cynics say that's because they get money from the guys. it may not be cynical. >> no, it may expose a deeper schism within the democratic party that bill clinton dealt with when he ran for president. remember he was running as the head of the dlc wing of the party that was attacked by some on the far left as be being too
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close to business. but there's the tension between the democratic party. the liberal base and then folks who have a much more expansive interconnected attitude about business. we may be seeing a blow back on the bain attacks that's showing it beneath the surface of the democratic party surfacing again. >> hogan, it's interesting when you think of bill clinton weighing in on this. i think it's clear that he's voting for barack obama, he wants barack obama to win. but he did what he did with business on board. >> that's right. right. and bill clinton's not -- he's a very smart man. he knew what he was saying and doing in the interview. who knows, there might be some residue left over from that campaign he and hillary faced off with barack many years ago. but look, i remember in new hampshire in the primary when mike allen from politico said to rick santorum, can you believe romney said this about firing people and to rick santorum's credit he was the only one who said, look, that's capitalism.
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some jobs you grow and make businesses grow, some people lose their jobs. that's just the way the system works. and what's interesting about this is every other republican jumped on and attacked mitt romney for bain. but it was a losing strategy. newt gingrich has gone all over the country explaining this. that it was a losing strategy for the -- a lot of the conservative folks to be talking about bain capital. now, the president came out and did it for two weeks and it just shows they have no message to attack him on as it relates to bain capital. now people like booker and clinton are saying, guys, he's successful, get over it, move on to another topic. >> with hogan, obviously we have moved to the general. that attack was risky for a conservative primary electorate. but what's fascinating here is that it's actually playing to some extent into romney's narrative. romney tried to drive a wedge in the speech he gave between clinton and that centrist wing of the democratic party and barack obama. this all of a sudden, this schism is starting to give credence to that argument. there's a difference. this is not the pro-business
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democratic party that bill clinton ran. this is a party that he would argue barack obama is playing to the base and running against business. this schism in the democratic party starts playing into the narrative that romney wants to have a debate about. >> right. what's interesting, lz granderson is with us. and once we get growing again, we need the bush tax cuts to go up for everyone. not just the wealthy, but everyone. that doesn't seem to be the message of barack obama. >> no, and he has the -- and he's not running for office, actually. he's running to make the country better. i think that what bill clinton is aing may not be the things that the president wants to hear, but the things that the country may need. those are two different things. there's a motive for turning the
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country around and they may not be on the same page. >> i'm curious to think if you think he'll keep doing this. if it gets traction he may not care what we're saying. here's the kind of the ad he's running on bain. >> we view mitt romney as a job destroyer. >> to get up on national tv and bragging about making jobs when he has destroyed thousands of people's careers, lifetimes, just destroying people. >> he's running for president and if he's going to run the country the way he ran our business, i wouldn't want him there. >> keep running that kind of ad? >> there's not a lot of evidence it's working. their hope is it's going to resonate with blue collar workers in swing states like ohio and pennsylvania. but here's the problem. bill clinton was able to reconnect with centrist and indpen dens. that's how he was the first democrat re-elected since fdr. if romney said this is a return to the democratic party before it recognized that businesses
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create job, he could have an argument with the centrist and independents who ultimately decide who win the election. >> thank you very much. still outfront, the man who left the romney campaign suddenly but he says being openly gay and being incredibly criticized for being openly gay from the far right of the republican party didn't influence him. does it add up? we'll ask him. and we go outfront to israel. up next, what might be the world's second most valuable secret formula. ♪ [ woman ] it's like a magnet. pulling us together for different reasons.
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our third story outfront, before i went to israel to interview prime minister netanyahu we kick around a few stories to shoot there, like the vertical farming, but then my eye caught this. on my desk. it's called moroccan oil. it's the hottest hair product in the world right now. it's made in israel. the company was started six years ago by chilean native carmen tull and her ex-husband and the idea of moroccan oil didn't come from years of research, but from something else. >> because of an accident that somebody damaged my hair, i happened to land in a beautiful
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salon in tel aviv and this person just did miracles with my hair. it wasn't just the person, but the product. >> the product carmen stumbled on is argon oil. it has been produced in morocco for centuries. >> that's why we decided to call it moroccan oil. we never thought it would be so successful. >> sold exclusively in salons in more than 35 countries it is used by a-list celebrities like madonna, katy perry, jennifer lopez and scarlett johansson. >> do you walk by the salon and you say that's my stuff? >> yeah. >> do you get a feeling in your stomach? it's been featured in vogue and become a product of choice for fashion shows including cherrer. >> the part that it was a successful business it came as a bonus. >> the business is based in israel.
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where 80% of moroccan oil is manufactured. in a nondescript warehouse two hours north of jerusalem. this is the plant director and one of only four people who know the secret formula to this blockbuster hair product. >> what makes this so secret? >> the blend and mix of all the top-notch ingredients that we have inside. it makes it so good. >> it really makes it so good or just you market it really well? >> they wouldn't tell me the top secret formula but i saw them make it. 25 different products go in and they're mixed in the special two-ton vats. the vats are named after the celebrities that use them. like angelina jolie. >> we call this room -- this is the manufacturing room. but inside the factory we call it the hollywood room. >> the hollywood room? because of all the actresses? >> all the stars are here. >> the moroccan oil are the
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signature product. they have people working 24/7 and packaging up to 155,000 bottles a day. it's big money. especially since that one product retails for $42 a bottle. and it's not stopping there. carmen is now betting on body products. i'm not an expert in the world of beauty but i can imagine it's incredibly cut throat and the world of body is a whole new world. >> absolutely. >> from a competitive point of view. so what made you feel you were ready to take the jump? >> so many people said you have to. so many people begging you, you know? so we said, you know, maybe we're ready. >> pretty interesting idea. ahead, our paul callan talking about the decision to revoke george zimmerman's bail. and days after the zombie-like brutal attack, there's a new case and we'll tell you the horrific thing that happened. ask for transitions adaptive lenses.
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welcome back to the second half of "outfront" on a friday. we focus on our reporting from the front lines, and today stocks sank after a disappointing jobs report.
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it was a 274-point plunge for the dow. the reason? the country only added 69,000 jobs in may. weakest this year. one of the stocks that took a hit -- facebook. it was down 6% today. it closed at $27.72 a share. it's the two-week anniversary as a publicly traded company and since it's opened it's lost a third of the value. i asked the economic strike team whether they'd buy facebook now. check them out on the bios and blogs, three said yes, 11 said no. four had no comment. if you want to learn more about the economic strike team, go to our website. and there's downed trees and flash floods in the town of bel air, maryland. a home and a car dealership have collapsed. firefighters rescued several people trapped inside the dealership. a person was injured. and a funnel cloud was spotted in the area. meantime, the military has
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dropped one of the murder charges against staff sergeant robert bails, but added others including elicit use of alcohol and steroids. the staff sergeant is accused of attacking two afghan villages and facing 16 counts of premeditated murder for killing men, women and children. john henry brown, his lawyer said i'm so relieved that they the prosecutors finally came out publicly about the steroid use. steroid use is going to be -- is going to be an issue in this case, especially where he got steroids and how he got them. john henry brown has told me from the very beginning he thinks that steroid use could be a key part of his defense. well, a maryland college student who confessed to police that he killed and then ate a portion of his roommate's heart and brain was released from jail just days before the brutal crime. court records that we obtained show that alexander kunila had
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been released from jail just days before his roommate's murder. the suspect's father called police after two metal tins containing a human head and hands were discovered in the basement. he said they belonged to an animal and it was shown that they were human. a new report giving us details of the stuxnet worm that was the one that caused explosions in the nuclear program also explosions in some industrial facilities there, it happened to kill some iranians as well, according to "the new york times," david sanger, it was developed as part of a program called olympic games. started in this country, not israel, by the bush administration. president obama kept the program going and authorized the continued use of stuxnet even after portions of the program became public. we're going to learn more about this when david sanger comes "outfront" on monday. obviously very significant. it's been 302 days since the u.s. lost its top credit rating.
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what are we going to get it back? it might get if we get economic growth and the silver lining was the oil prices. they're down 18% over the past four weeks. gasoline futures fell 6% today. that could bring relief at the pump over the next two to three months. now the fourth story outfront. a bombshell in the case against george zimmerman, the man accused of shooting and killing trayvon martin. zimmerman claims martin attacked him and he was acting in self-defense. he facing second degree murder charges. today, huge news. the judge revoked his bond. ordering him to surrender in the next 48 hours. what this means is that zimmerman will have to spend months behind bars before the trial against him even starts. the judge's decision today coming after it was revealed by prosecutors that zimmerman had not surrendered a second passport, and had lied about how much money he had when his bond was originally set back in april. you may remember this. the paypal account he had started to raise money had about
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$200,000 in it. when he went for the original and he spoke he said he had no money. zimmerman's lawyer explained it was a misunderstanding. >> i don't think they believe they had free access to that money. i think that was evident by the way they used it and didn't use it. i think it was compelling evidence that they didn't go out and just use it to get him out that very day. on the other hand, i think judge lester runs a tight courtroom as well he should. he didn't think they were being as straightforward and as honest as he thought they should. >> outfront tonight, natalie jackson, one of the lawyers representing trayvon martin's family and paul callan. paul callan, does this surprise you? we had heard about this account, it had been raised as something that could cause them to revoke bail, that he would lie about the money. but a second pass part is very damming. >> both things are damming. it's a devastating blow to the
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defense. i was really stunned to hear it happened. the reason i say it's a devastating blow is because the judge, judge lester, who said he deceived the court -- he and his wife, those are the words of the judge, he deceived the court, he lied to the court, this is the very judge who is going to decide the stand your ground ruling, he's going to decide on whether to give immunity and he's called him a liar. and not to mention he gets thrown back into jail. >> what's your reaction, you must be gratified? >> i think it makes us cautiously optimistic that we're going to see justice and fair and equal justice for everyone. this judge showed everyone he going to follow the law and he's not going to allow shenanigans in the courtroom. >> a lot of the information that we have gotten, i know both the defense and the prosecution are trying to keep it out of the media eye. i want to ask natalie about that in a moment. but what we have seen so far, at
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least according to your analysis and other lawyers has tended to go in george zimmerman's favor. that he was angry at the police department for what he perceived as racist behavior on another unrelated issue. how damaging is this after all the other information that seemed to go in his gafavor? >> this is the first devastating blow that we have seen delivered to the defense in quite a while. most of the evidence that has come in has backed up the zimmerman claim. i think in fairness we have to say o'mara and the new defense attorney west have maintained that the judge went overboard here and that in fact this was an innocent mistake by george zimmerman, not deliberate deception of the court. that's the explanation they offer. whether it's true or not doesn't matter because he's the judge and he's deciding the immunity issue. the stand your ground hearing. that was the big opportunity to get the days dismissed before jury trial.
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>> natalie, were you even aware of the second passport until today? >> no, we weren't. but i want to talk about the stand your ground. we have maintained that stand your ground does not apply to this case. i do not believe there will be a stand your ground hearing in this case. george zimmerman's credibility is the main issue of this case. it's the main issue in the stand your ground hearing and in a trial. with this case, we've heard all along people talk about stand your ground. we have maintained that stand your ground law as applied to this case is just the red herring. we don't believe there will be a hearing in this case on that. but -- >> when i have spoken to mark o'mara, he said he'd go for self-defense, not going for stand your ground. >> right, he can't win on stand your ground. it does not apply. >> the issue on stand your ground thing, it gets confusing but in a lot of florida cases they almost routinely grant t s this -- i call it an immunity hearing because it's a hearing
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in which if the defendant says he acted in self-defense, the court makes a determination whether he's proven that by what we call a preponderance of the evidence. and if he has, then the case gets dismissed. so the question is will the judge order such a hearing in this case? and i don't think it's clear at this point. but it has been done in a lot of other similar cases. >> and natalie, what's the reason -- the thing you and the defense seem to agree on is this issue of not wanting to have more of the information, the discovery come into the public eye. my understanding is about half of it is out there. we have seen most of it. you want the rest to be sealed. why is that? >> well, i will say, actually, our team is asking for full transparency. the prosecution is agreeing with the defense, to seal the discovery. we understand why. it's because what -- everything that is left is what the prosecution is going to use as their smoking gun against zimmerman. so they don't want the media to be able to analyze that the way that we have seen this piecemeal
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analyization of the material coming in. we're asking for a transparency because the things that have been leaked so far have been things that have -- you know, sort of demonized trayvon in this case and he's the victim. we're saying if you're going to put that out there, really let the public see everything. let them see what's going on in this case. there's enough evidence to convict george zimmerman. this was not a case of, you know, that trayvon attacked george zimmerman as we have maintained all along. >> all right. >> the prosecutor, they did -- you know, they brought this charge because they believe they can prove it. >> thanks very much to both of you. ahead outfront, does being gay disqualify you from being a power player in the republican party? a man who used to work for mitt romney, openly gay, for gay marriage, a republican, comes outfront.
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♪ [ male announcer ] pringles... bursting with more flavor. [ crunch! ] we're back with our outer circle. we reach out around the world and we begin in canada where police identified the victim of a gruesome murder in montreal.
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the victim's name is juan lynn. we have the picture for you in a second. police believe luka magnotta killed lynn, a 33-year-old university student from china, before stuffing his torso in a suitcase and mailing body parts to canadian political leaders. the man hunt for magnotta is in europe and i asked her where the police are looking for him today. >> the international manhunt is on. police say they have reason to believe that that suspect is here in europe but they don't know where. they're telling me that he had at least five days' lead on the interpol wanted list. that notice did go out, we can tell you it's up in airports and train stations here. police pointing to the long and sordid trail of evidence that this suspect apparently left on the internet. police in canada saying it's proof enough for them, and this will help them in their
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investigation. but right now, they're pointing to his connections to france, even here in london. perhaps the netherlands. they hope to catch up with him soon. the problem now is though with that lead, the fact that he was already here on the continent for five days, many people conceded he can travel throughout europe without being detected. erin? >> thanks to paula. now to mexico where a recent study found that over 10% of organized crime groups are led by women. and that number is growing. i asked rafael romo why we're seeing more and more women leading some of the most dangerous drug cartels on earth. >> in many cases, women end up as cartel bosses because they're the only ones left. when you see cartels fighting each other and the government fighting them all, many drug lords have fallen and their wive, lovers and even daughters have taken their place. 46 women allegedly involved in drug trafficking have been arrested in mexico in the last
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five years. for example, this woman known as the queen of the pacific was arrested in 2007 and convicted of trafficking cocaine from colombia. there's also the case of angie san clemente who was arrested in argentina. erin? >> wow. involving beauty queens. and then to the u.k. as the british prepare to celebrate queen elizabeth ii's 60 years on the throne. her popularity at a 15-year high here in the u.s. 82% of americans say they have a favorable opinion of the combine. has the president ever gotten there? to kick off the festivities, prince charles produced a personal tribute to his mother tonight. i asked what prince charles shared ahead of the jubilee? >> well, erin, what prince charles has done is dusted down the old family videos many of which he admits he hasn't seen for years.
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one shows him playing on the beach with his sister ann. it dispels the theory that he was a hands off mother. this was a happy, functional family. also, some footage from behind the scenes at buckingham palace on the day he was crowned. the queen came in with a priceless crown as she practiced wearing it. so a very ordinary family in many ways. i think that's what we have learned here. not just a queen, but a mother. erin? >> nice to see those pictures. and now our fifth story outfront. the foreign policy adviser to mitt romney who became so controversial that he quit his job before he even started. he was lambasted from the right. rick grenell was a foreign policy spokesperson for mitt romney back in april but he immediately faced a backlash because he was gay. the romney campaign asked him to lay low, but he resigned days
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later and earlier tonight he came outfront. i asked him if he was surprised by the outcry over his sexuality. >> you know, i really wasn't. i have been in working in republican politics for a very long time. so i was not surprised. i think though it's fair to say that the intolerance was coming from the far right as well as the far left. and the far left intolerance doesn't get enough attention put on it. but i think both extremes were uncomfortable. the far right doesn't want a conservative to be gay. and the far left doesn't want a gay to be conservative. >> all right. you're sort of between a rock and a hard place when you put it that way. what made it so bad that you said i can't do this anymore? >> well, you know, i'm a foreign policy guy. i'm somebody who has devoted my life to really thinking about policy, national security policy and making sure that america is safe and strong.
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and i relished the opportunity to actually define for the romney campaign and for governor romney a lot of the issues that i think president obama and his administration are really not doing a very good job on. and so i was hired because of that experience and was looking forward to it. but it became increasingly clear that, you know, this is a campaign. it's not governing. i spent ten -- eight years in the bush administration. and was comfortably out and it was never an issue. but campaigns are different. >> i mean, you must feel pretty angry, all of a sudden, the fact that you're gay is how everyone is talking about you. that's what you're talking about right now. it's determined whether you kept the job. that has to make you really mad. >> you know, i'm very comfortably gay, i'm very comfortably conservative. so it doesn't. i understand politic, i have my big boy pants on. it's a rough and tumble games. presidential campaigns are nasty, but, you know, i think governor romney can win this
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election by avoiding all of that talk. you know, the obama campaign really wants to define republicans as either homophobic, misogynistic or racist. i think that's just their playbook and governor romney has to ignore all of that noise that really the obama campaign is going to throw out there because frankly speaking, if obama tries to run on his record of four years, he is going to be a one-termer. he is absolutely going to lose. they cannot run on their record. >> so you have left the romney campaign, but your whole career has been in foreign policy. right now, latest poll, abc news/"washington post," 53% said the president will do better on foreign policy. if there was one thing that mitt romney needs to change that number, what would you tell him to do? >> first of all, he has time to have that discussion with the american people. i have never been called by a pollster. i don't know anyone who's ever been called by a pollster.
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we just got out of a bruising republican primary battle. this just the beginning of june. we have a long time to take that message to the american people. and i think the american people will get into the voting booth and they will see that the past four years has not been good for america. we have struggled both internally and globally and i think they will look at mitt romney and his record and say, let's have a business man who really is passionate about making america exceptional again. let's give that guy a shot. >> so with all of the things being said, obviously, i'm aware you're going to vote for mitt romney, but are you doing so with passion and conviction given your personal decisions, your personal life or are you going to do so just because he's the republican candidate? >> no, no, i have been on the romney campaign personally for a very long time. he was my pick in the beginning from the primary. and so i'm passionate. i think he will be a great
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president. i think that at the end of the day, we all will go into that voting booth and make the decision according to a variety of issues. we're multifaceted people. i wish i was a one-issue voter. life would be simpler. all right, the 911 calls made during the horrible florida zombie case have been released. we'll play them for you next.
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911 calls made -- the miami police department has just released some 911 calls made during the gruesome face-eating attack in miami. here's the first one we have. we want to play it for you. >> these two bums are going at it with each other. i think they're fighting or something. yeah, just up the causeway. in like the pedestrian area. >> you said it was three of them? >> i think two -- >> two. were they black or white? >> i think black or hispanic. darker skin color or maybe just very tan. >> what did you say they were doing? >> fighting with each other. they almost knocked over an old lady. >> you say they were in the
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street? >> in the bike path or pedestrian walkway. it crosses the causeway. >> now, you know the story. police shot and killed rudy eugene after the 18-minute attack on the homeless man. eugene was possibly on a drug known as bath salts. he chewed the face off of the other man. gouged out his eyeball. it is horrific and truly defied anybody's imagination who knows about the case. paul callan you have done a lot of case, you have heard a lot of 911 calls. this could be the first one, there could be others. in the middle of the afternoon, there were bikes and cars going by. what do you hear here? >> it's amazing. i'm always surprised when you hear the 911 calls and how inaccurate people are when they describe what they see. you know, you talk about eyewitness testimony being inaccurate. what you're going to hear are descriptions of bizarre things that we know don't correlate to what was going on. he was eating somebody's face. >> right. you would think -- the guy -- he
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just said they were fighting. >> they were fighting. >> what we heard was growling and literally -- i mean, that was not part of this call. >> was he black, was he white, well, he was a little tan. you know, it shows you about eyewitness testimony, how unreliable it is. we're going to see that in other prominent cases when witnesses get cross-examined. but these 911 tapes you always hear this at trials. >> one thing i'm curious about, this happened in broad daylight, on a causeway with the bike lane and the act that was going on was so horrific. it does defy imagination. yet, a lot of people and you can see it in the video, biked right on by. now, maybe they were scared and they biked by and they called 911 further down. i don't know. it is common for people to just see something awful and just ignore it? >> it's extraordinarily common. especially in the big cities and of course anybody who lived in new york in the '70s remembers homeless people laid out in the street and people would step
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over them in the subway. they'd ignore them because it was so common place. i think the fear is if you pull over and you stop, you know, what if you're being to get hurt or attacked? i think people drive on. maybe if they call 911 we're so of you for watching. appreciate it. have an awesome weekend. hello, america. don't adjust your set. i'm bill maher filling in for piers morgan. tonight i'm talking to the guy who created "family guy." seth mcfarlane. damu. no one else could make a movie about a man and his teddy bear and get an r rating. >> you're so raunchy. >> thank you. i try. we all try. >> also tonight, cycling legend seven time tour de france winner and a man who's battled cancer and won, lance armstrong, he's here to talk about his life after cycling. have you ever been in bad shape your whole life? >> yeah, i've been in bad shape. never as unfit as some people.

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